Where does the right to social security come from?

❂Via the Australian Attorney Generals website:

“Australia is a party to seven core international human rights treaties. The right to social security is contained in article 9 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR).

See also article 5(e)(iv) of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD) , articles 11(1)(e) and 14(2)(c) of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women , article 26 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) and article 28 of the Convention on the Rights of people with disability (CRPD).”


❂International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights:
ICESCR Article 9 states: “The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize the right of everyone to social security, including social insurance”


❂Articles 22 and 25(1) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights :
“Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to soSocial security…” “Everyone has the right to Social security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.”


Can the right to social security be limited?

❂Article 4 of ICESCR provides that countries may subject economic social and cultural rights only to such limitations ‘as are determined by law only in so far as this may be compatible with the nature of these rights and solely for the purpose of promoting the general welfare in a democratic society’.

❂The UN Committee has stated that such limitations must be proportional and the least restrictive alternative where several types of limitations are available, and even where such limitations are permitted, they should be of limited duration and subject to review.”

This is where the LNP are overreaching their authority:

The CDC targets those who do not fit stated target criteria and their justification for the program ie: those who do not drink, use drugs, use violence or commit crimes under influence or gamble. Therefore it is not, when reasonably considered, a proportionate response to the stated program goal.

Forced third party income management and economic segregation, is NOT the ” least restrictive’ option available to this government it is in fact the most restrictive option available.

The current legislation limits full and equal application of protection under law for forced CDC trial participants, excluding them from accessing in full, their rights and protections contained within the Social Security Act 1999 and Disability, Rights of Child, Racial and other Non Disctimination Acts that would ordinarily apply to them.

The current Act and CDC legislation has NO requirement for review. NONE. Just an ‘end date’ and the Goldfields CDC cards are showing 2021 as a expiry date.

These points, individually and when combined, therefore demonstrate that the CDC does NOT meet this required criteria.



❂ Australian Human Rights Commission submission to the Cashless Debit Card Senate inquiry 2017.

❂ The Consumer Action Law Centre submission (#26) to the CDC Senate inquiry 2017 :

❂The Law Council of Australia submission to the CDC Inquiry. Submission #30


Unfortunately, government has access to a clause in our Social Security Act which stipulates that all Social Security payments are ‘ subject to legislative amendement’.

This government has used that ‘tool’ written into the Act and widened its ordinary definition to include empowering them to ‘amend’ our human and civil/disability/racial and other rights and protections under the Act as well, rather than just defining who is/isnt able to receive payments..

That is where the difficulty lies with regard to class actions/court cases. They are not ‘exactly’ breaking the law per say, they are bending it to an inch of its life and in our view, misusing the original intention and spirit of it.

They have simply dismissed the Human Rights Commissioners statement and the recommendations of the HRC as a group, as well as other recommendations from the Law Society and other legally qualified groups – this is a serious matter in itself, and so, it is up to the HRC to stand by its statement that this program does not meet human rights standards, and act on it before any of us are liekly to get a chance.

We feel that the HRC will need to lead the legal pathway and instigate any legal challenge to the Act itself, which they havent and are unlikely to as the HRC are hanging by a political thread themselves and the IPA and LNP using Cory Bernadi, want to abolsih the Federal Commission and repatriate the matter of upholding Human Rights to the States.
We dont need a degree in metaphysics to foresee that such a shift could place these State run commissions in the LNP’s political hands as oposed to its current Federal auspice if they lose the next federal election. It also and most importantly pushes Human Rights over all, even further away from the cabinet room making it more likely they will be ignored or sumarily dismissed.

See Cori’s HRC abolition private members Bill here:…/Bills…/Bills_Search_Results/Result…

CDC 2017 Legislation here:…/Community_Affairs/CashlessDebitCard

Social Security at 1999 here:…/leg…/cth/consol_act/ssa1999338/



A rebuttle by the SNS to a recent press artcile by Mr Keith Pitt member for Hinkler. Located here:


Dear Mr Keith Pitt

75% of the ” people that have contacted my office” – is not a representative statistic of your community, nor is it submissible data in any sense. It also stands a pale second to public polls undertaken within the Hinkler community local media that place your regions response at minimum 81% against the roll out in Bundaberg, 85% against in Hervey Bay and 82% on a second one for Hinkler as a whole, the one you yourself called for.
[See images attached below.]

Your much lauded “survey”, where actual voting privilges only existed in one of three flyers delivered – voting rights only extended at all to select and LNP friendly households; has already been tabled in the Senate and stands on the Hansard record, as evidence of your consistant inability to act honourably within your own electorate and to tell the truth in national and local media and from the floor of parliament over the last twelve months.

There is no one considered informed of this situation, who is not also acutely aware that you are currently out of favor with the LNP party room and are desperate to regain your position and reputation. Know please, that we will support those who choose to resist you and any attempt you make to misuse your power and risk the lives of vulnerable Australians in order to acheive this goal.

The Senate has voted Mr Pitt and we feel it is about time you accepted that. They voted as late as February this year to limit trials; they have made their decision and they have made it FOR GOOD REASON.

The actions this leglislation permits are life altering for those directly impacted and their communities; the program as a whole is an unqualifed expense as yet not even disclosed to the Australian public in full; the Orima data as analysed by Dr Janet Hunt of the ANU has shown 77% no positive outcome in current trials, and the impact of the card on our small businesses and our Human Economic Privacy and Civil Rights position as a nation and as these relate to equality of a single teir citizenship reality ongoing, have far reaching structural and social implications for ALL Australians regardless of income status.

This policy is not something that CAN let alone SHOULD be ‘rushed out’ based on your personal wants and political beliefs, nor any foot stomping temper tantrum you may make in press. The CDC will remain subject to the parliamentry process and public scruitiny whether you like that, or not.

The SENATE has considered the issues and has limited “trial” locations to three regions for sound practical and moral reasons and has decided that any future roll outs to be considered must follow a set due process. Your own party has stated in the budget just two days ago, that a new evaluation must take place. Why then are you so unwilling to wait for the results and that data BEFORE endangering or risking many more lives?

That you would seek to ignore this safety measure and be so eager to risk the lives health and safety of your own constituants, speaks volumes and says a great deal about the person and politician you are and the vengence and power you are seeking in this endeavour.

As you were informed by the Queensland Teachers Union statement and in their submission to Senate Inquiry, the area teachers themselves and the families of local students have rebutted your claim that ‘ 1000 children a day’ were ‘starving’ in Bundaerg and Hevery Bay. This was a FALSE claim – intentional scare mongering and an outright lie intended to promote your Indue card position. It has no basis in fact OR in data.

As you are also more than fully aware, the Indue LTD Cashless Debit Card creates NO employment whatsoever except for Indue Ltd CEOS and associated LNP contractors and lobbyist groups. Given the cards inability to address the actual and manual issues that underly social inequality, or to magically arrest addictions, reduce crime, change social living conditions for the better or to alter aggressive globalist LNP policies that have gutted the employment sector, it cannot perform any of the miracles you are attributing to it.

It can, as forced third party income management has for the last 13 years, only ever cement poverty, create more welfare dependancy and fail to meet any objective laid out by those that support it. These are well DOCUMENTED failures, not simply our opinion.

As a tool of ideology, and functionally, it can only restrict people from accessing cash. That’s it. Structurally, where change is needed most, it does absolutely nothing for your community in the positive and offers in return only a great expense and many negatives. It will not serve your community at all, it cannot. It can only ever serve the ego and whims of those few to whom you have promised control and other incentives in order to support your and your party’s agendas and crusade.

Dare we say it Mr Pitt, if your community is in such a dire state, and conditions are so bad as you say, then what have you been doing or not doing for the last five years in office that the situation has been permitted by you to deteriorate at all ?

Surely as the Federal representative for Hinkler electorate, you more than any other person, bear full responsiblity and culpability for any conditions that may prevail, as we are sure you would equally try to claim full praise and reward were things going swimmingly. Given you are the one who is accountable, why then do you seek to make your constituants responsible and seek to force them to carry your burden and bear the cost of your inaction?

It remains, whether you like it or not, want it to or not, or are happy about it or not, because of your impatience and unwillingness to accept the Senate decison, you must present a whole new Bill to parliament in order to effect any roll out in your region.

We understand having to do that aggravates you, as losing out to a bunch of elder disabled community members in your war on facts must have been a significant embarrassment for you indeed. None the less, resistance was successful, and the current legislation reflects that victory. We don’t need sour grapes dictating political policy and proceedure. Now or ever.

This new Bill, like the last, is not garunteed passage either, it will be subject to all the same laborious parliamentry processes undertaken by hundreds of peple over the past two years in the intial crafting of the current legislation; it will add additional time and cost and waste millions of taxpayer dollars in the effort to slam it through both Senate and the House and then, into your community, as well as the costs and time for any committe or inquiry it’s appearance may justify. All the while creating more instability and insecurity in your region as it does so. Cost/benefit ratios alone demonstrate this is a selfish and reckless act.

All that needless waste of time and effort purely because you are impatient and so willing to risk lives to see your agenda served you would ignore the valid concerns of social welfare agencies, alcohol and drug experts in the field, academics and your own community. And you need only see todays reponses to your media announcement to see your own communities sentiments on the matter.

Mr Pitt. We welcome the challenge of any new legislation, especially so close to a Federal election. Be assured we will make the most of the opportunity yet again, to demonstrate the inefficacy of the CDCT program on the national stage, and to share with the general public the true impact and nature of CDC and CDCT.

We look forward to the opportunity to discuss, disclose and provide verified and documented data and information about the CDC to your community and the nation, information that you have closted and denied them since the onset of the program; and we look foward to doing so with a much more informed and aware, wider national audience now engaged.


– SNS.


Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights; Report 11 of 2017 Scrutiny committee (05/09/2017): CASHLESS DEBIT CARD BILL 2017

Full text of deliberations can be located in the NOTES section, via Social Services Legislation Amendment (Cashless Debit Card) Bill 2017


The committee thanks the minister for his response and has concluded its examination of the proposed legislation. 2.276

  • The preceding analysis indicates that concerns remain as to whether the trial is effective to achieve its stated objectives. 2.277
  • The analysis further indicates that, based on the information provided, the measures may not be a reasonable and proportionate limitation on human rights. 2.278
  • Accordingly, noting concerns raised by previous human rights assessments of the trial and related concerns regarding income management identified in the committee’s 2016 Review of Stronger Future measures, the measures may not be compatible with the right to social security, the right to privacy and family and the right to equality and non-discrimination.
  • If the bill is passed, the committee will consider the human rights implications of the legislative instruments once they are received.





Diane was contacted early this evening 11/05/18 and has been officially exempted from the Indue Ltd Cashless Debit Card trial! Husband Vic remains ‘pending’ but we are hopeful for him and several others also in pending mode at this time.

THANKYOU Australian Independant Media for your support and to everyone who has supported Di and Vic over the past five weeks.




For immediate release:


Diane Savill, a 60 year old diabetic mother with severe lung problems and her husband of twenty six years Vic, are long term residents of Kalgoorlie W.A  the third location of the LNP’s Indue LTD Cashless Debit Card roll out.

Both Diane and her husband are receiving the Disability Support Pension and have been trying to get an exemption from the card trial for the last 5 weeks to no avail.

On top of chronic diabetic concerns, Diane’s lungs were damaged after a bout of swine flu which has been increasingly debilitating. Vic has a broken back and is unable to read or to write given severe dyslexia. Vic also gets confused with numbers, he is unable to use mobile phones, eftpos, ATMs and computers and this means he is going to be unable to use the Indue Card in his daily life and will become totally dependent on his wife for every transaction, incapable of self managing with dignity.

Quite literally, Vic will have no financial or personal independence if he remains on the Indue Card and he will be unable to officially authorise his wife to use his card on his behalf owing to a clause in the Indue terms and conditions [13.1 No Joint Access, p24 Indue LTD Terms and Conditions] which forbids card holders from allowing anyone access to their card, pin number or online portal.

Diane is not Vic’s registered carer and is not physically able herself to become such, nor is she his Centrelink payment nominee and so, attempts to apply for exemption have been rejected. As she noted on her page this week, “It’s not his fault he’s got a busted back, dyslexia and brain damage from a brain tumor“.

The roll out of the Indue Cashless Debit Card program in their region, has caused significant stress for them both and has also created friction within their marriage over concerns for independance, privacy,  and ongoing care needs. Diane and Vic have only recently sold their house and were planning to move to a location outside of the trial zone. If they remain on the card, aside from all other complications, they will be the only members of that community compelled to publicly use an Indue Cashless Debit Card.

Diane’s distress has increased over the past few weeks as she has struggled to find a satisfactory route through the exemption process and she has found herself increasingly depressed. This distress has peaked since the 14 day activation time period limit given to her by the Department of Human Services, was reached just yesterday.

Unable to find the answers or support needed for herself and her husband, Diane has chosen over the past five weeks to actively protest against the card on the street and has participated in events held at the office of Rick Wilson Mp and in front of Centrelink in Kalgoorlie. In desperation at the impending crisis her family now faces and with her refusal to activate the Indue Card and submit herself and her family to even more distress and loss of autonomy, Diane has chosen to take what she feels is an inevitable next step.

Like most forced Indue Card trial participants, neither Diane or Vic drink to excess, use non prescribed drugs or gamble, and both have worked and paid taxes most of their adult lives. They have been responsible non violent citizens and active community members. With their child now grown, they had hoped the expected move would offer some hope for peace and security in their lives.

Diane has telephoned CDC hotlines and visited CDC offices over these past few weeks in attempts to be heard and have their families concerns taken seriously, only to be ‘brushed off’ and to find local area staff had not even read the Terms and Conditions of card use themselves, so could not answer her questions.

Diane also visited a local area counseling service to discuss her emotional concerns in hopes of finding relief and support. Instead, she reports she was pressured into stopping her protests by the clinician on duty, who insisted to her that Diane herself was responsible for the embarrassment and shame that ‘other clients’ had been experiencing and reporting to her. At this point, Diane declared that she had enough and made an impassioned plea from her Facebook page that the right to protest and to speak out where the only rights she had left.

Frustrated and confounded by the lack of awareness for people living with disabilities she has faced, Diane has since made a decision to protest in the only way she does feel she has left to her, that is, to begin a hunger strike. Diane takes this action with the hope of calling attention to her families plight and to the acute distress being experienced not just by her family, but by increasing numbers of people who’s lives have been turned upside down having been forced to accept third party income management for no just cause and without their consent in order to continue  to receieve their lawful Social Security Entitlements.

In Diane’s own words – “I will not say yes and activate that card – I would rather starve.”

Diane begins her hunger strike today, 10/5/2018, in Kalgoorlie Western Australia.

We have been assured, that all that can be done, has been done to ensure Dianes safety and proximity to support, and that Diane is aware of the risks and consequences that her actions may incur.

While we cannot condone actions that may lead to personal injury,  we are compelled to support Diane and Vic as members of our extended community and we cannot deny Diane herself, her human right to protest their treatment by the Department of Human Services.

We call upon Minister Dan Tehan to immediately intervene and examine Diane and Vic’s case and to investigate the roll out process currently underway within the Goldfields Region as a matter of urgency, to ensure no other families or individuals are in similar distress unseen and unheard.

The Say No Seven Community.


   Goldfields community experience of the Indue Ltd Cashless Debit Card rollout.


Andrew Laming trolls the SNS

After being called out on our page for his lies on Redlands and Islands community Facebook pages, Andrew Laming tries to troll the SNS:

Andrew Laming MP Hello Labor/Green voters. I just want to apologise in advance because my community will completely ignore your inner city elite attitudes. Your hash tag failed but we are entertained by you. Just a tip. Sponsor an ad, because you are getting nothing organic. Back to your lattes guys.


Our repsonse:

The Say NO Seven Mr Laming thank you for gracing our page with more of your tediousness.

Firstly, to correct this latest ignorance, our membership is pan Australian, with members in every state and territory, every region well represented. And you have just insulted, every single one of them. Good luck with that! Did we mention our post reach?

Did we also mention we are from every economic class, quite well off to abjectly poor, and come from every social and education background and class as well. Most important of all, our membership includes many people who are residing in the current CDC trial regions and in targeted regions. People you and your party have placed directly in harms way. Attempting to dismiss them off as inner city latte drinkers…not a good idea, not smart at all Andrew as, if we are nothing else, we are informed, and we are fearless.

Had you bothered to read our ‘about’ page you would know all that already and that this community is strictly a-political – our membership includes voters from every party and political mindset, even LNP members. As for admins, apart from a collective group awareness that we do indeed despise this latest incarnation of the LNP as a general rule, we have no personal political affiliations to declare whatsoever and have taken no money or material aid from any group at all, ever. We would quite happily ally with a barn door if that door opposed the CDC. The point I am making Andrew is that the CDC has done something good after all, it has united ALL of us, against one common enemy – the CDC, which our membership already know does not discriminate based on voting preferences, geographic location, personal financial competency, health status or social position. As the blanket presumption and assumption it is, the CDC effects everyone, directly and indirectly regardless of all those prior divisions.

Your lame attempt at insult here only further validates our points made above, that you are a lackluster, shameless, unsophisticated thinker with a serious lack of credibility and no place in the office of government you currently and temporarily occupy. If you are this easily baited to reveal yourself as nannygoat, we wonder how you have survived in Canberra at all. Oh wait..we know that already too. In any case, our hashtag as you say, has already been of benefit to many, especially those who now have awareness of us, and so, access to the other half of the back story to your neatly crafted CDC lies.

We’ve done our job Andrew, it’s time you and your party brethren began even at least trying to do yours.

Thanks again, when you are ready to discuss the CDC and the issue of your telling of porkies to the population, feel free to return, until then, you are just another off topic trolling pest, so please, don’t let the door hit you.

– SNS🐦

PS: We’ve just been messaged by several members who want us to remind you that thanks to your governments policies they can no longer afford the luxury of coffee. Enjoy yours won’t you.


This post lists all of our protests against the card, since June 2017

First off we had full tactical officers patrolling the original protest outside the Mantra in Hervey Bay when Keith Pitt and Alan Tudge had their chamber of commerce meeting , not opened to the public of course !…/armed-poli…/3187131/

We followed up with a public meeting organised by our local Bundaberg ALP member at the time Leanne Donaldson and then followed up with 2 meetings in Hervey Bay with other ALP Bruce Saunders and then candidate Adrian Tantari, we united to get information out to the people across the region,

We then protested our council, who kept claiming it was a federal issue and they were not getting involved, we learned that was not exactly the case as our mayor had lots of meetings with the dss, for a federal issue they were not getting involved in !…/protests…/3191768/

Bundaberg Awareness Group against the card, started up and worked together with us in Hervey Bay, they held several protests outside Keith Pitts office and collected signatures for the first of 2 paper petitions,…/cashless-welfare-card…/49863/

In July Hinkler group were gifted a shop front to use as drop in centre until the 2nd week in Sept , we took turns in manning it to share info,

More protests around the region and Bundy were doing weekly markets and standing outside Centrelink and had a set up in the CBD to collect signatures for the petitions.…/cashless-card-oppon…/3208576/

29th July We did a podcast for Fraser Coast Journal

Volunteers cut out 5000 hands to hold out hands in the sands event:

The first of the official DSS meetings was held in Bundaberg 8/8/17
The Hervey Bay DSS event was held on the 9th, both meetings were the only official meetings to tell us how it was going to be .

Bundaberg BAG continued to protest every week in the CBD while Hinkler did some markets stalls to raise awareness.

Hervey Bay held a couple of protest on the main rd through town,

1st Sept Hervey Bay and Bundaberg crews united to welcome Senator Rachel Siewert for a public meeting , and as were working as an inclusive group, our then alp candidate also spoke at the meeting,…/cashless…/3226271/

We did more main st protests throughout sept,

Bundaberg continued protest too

Thanks to the community support we were able to travel to the Senate Enquiry in Nov in Canberra to stand up for our community you can view here,

We also attended the Aboriginal Tent Embassy in Canberra and donated 40 shirts for the people down there if they wanted to use them. as well as donating food and meeting Clinton Prior ( Spirit Walker) and some really nice people welcomed us to attend the huge opening of their meeting for the first nations peoples of this land,

We ended the drop in centre: then we travelled every week to join Bundaberg crew with their weekly CBD protests with our new petition and raised 856 signatures in approx 8 weeks doing 1 day a week and 1 or 2 days a week outside Centrelink for a couple of hours a day,

Myself and Jenni spoke to council, we got 5 mins
At least Bundaberg crew got 30 mins with their council

We held a couple of events that the weather forced us to end as it was too wet and windy etc,

We did several interviews in the media along the way, 5 in Hervey Bay and Bundaberg has done some too, many articles and letters to the editor in out local papers,

Our last protest was recently again outside Keith Pitts Office 2nd Fed, unfortunately our Feb 3 Hervey Bay protests was washed out by 35 km winds and rain, ( 5 of us toughed it out, got very wet, but cancelled for safety reasons ) that lined up with another National Protest that was held in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and also Kalgoorlie

Along the way many of us have been bullied, abused, stalked, trolled and even surveilled !

Several Interviews have been done, I did 2 with 3cr breakfast radio melbourne and a 1 hr show with 4 zzz Brisbane

During the senate debates we were proud to hear Doug Cameron and Andrew Bartlett speak about our efforts during the second reading debate with regards to the CDC

We have never given up, found all manner of ways to engage community, with community events, BBQs etc, to get heard and to get the message across,

Not to mention, 100s of phone calls to ministers senators, and people putting in submissions to the senate and then the last couple of months has been solid lobbying of the senate crossbench by everyone n the hinkler page and every other group helping,

Anti Poverty network protested in Brissy for us, attended the St Vinnies sleep out in shirts to say NO,
They also held a community event in Logan recently and also made people aware of the card, again wearing our shirts,

Then on the 3rd of Feb Anti Poverty Network Qld & AUWU protested outside Indue,

So while were battling on the ground, The Say No Seven was writing many posts and getting the info out there too and helping us too,

We may have stopped the card for Hinkler for now, but we know they will try again, but we will not stop fighting for all , those already on the card, those about to go on the card, we will keep going,

Why was CDC approved for Goldfields, and not for Bundaberg? One view…

         Hinkler Electorate Epic Fight Back History:

Why was CDC approved for the Goldfields but not Bunderberg ? 


 A few other possible reasons…

1) Money. The Bundaberg/Hervey electorate budget for CDC hasn’t been approved by Senate yet, Goldfields CDC budget was approved early last year before even the Federal Opposition had a clear view on CDC much less the general public. This  despite the existance of Ceduna’s active and vocal opposition which had been shutdown by their Mayor and negated in media yes, but was present to be seen and heard in Ceduna and in other pockets of early protest by those willing to listen none the less.  As cynical as it sounds, these voices gained no media or traction, they were easily dismissed as they provided no political gain. When we came to this fight, few outside Ceduna knew anything about the CDC, or at best knew very little about the true life realities of CDC impostion.

The Government had acted very carefuly during roll outs out west and down south, and took advatange of peoples political and legislative illiteracy and social distractons. They had not shared a shred of useful information with anyone that they felt ‘did not need to know’ and in that, they had already begun to abuse their authority and postion as temporary governers.

At the start of NO Card campiagns we found we had more information about CDC than our politicans, local state and federal. Even within the LNP as we have become aware recently,  CDC issues were kept compartmentalised so no one, even now, really quite knows what’s actually going on or what the real facts are beyond  the script and discipline to adhere to it  handed to them; that is, outside a very tight and tightly controlled inner circle.

So there was just ‘ the budget request’  for them to massage through at that point, very easy to manipulate and it appears in hinsight, that it took very little creative concealment for them to do it. Going into 2016-17, and via active deception essentially, that was designed to keep the pretext in tact and to keep fine details of the program at arms length from the body politic as much as thepeople, that budget passed without a blink.

2) Action by residents. People on the ground in Hinkler got together with all opposition political and social, they crossed cultures, political prefferences, put all ideological and personal prejudices aside and stuck together, one mission one focus, no matter what was thrown at them…including a fully armed tactical division sent out to ‘contain’ a protest by 8 over 45yr old disabled women. They immediately showed up Alan Tudge and Pitt for the bullying tossers they are. They were relentless in researching facts and myth busting government propaganda, they still are out there doing that fact checking and most importantly, acively challenging every comment made about the Card and about them in media. That info is out there everywhere now, for any town to use.
They made a LOT of uncomfortable noise for Alan Tudge, a massive ammount for such a small group, about 20 active on the ground, and they educated themselves about CDC and spoke to anyone anywhere they could, despite so much ignorance and classism and members of their own community, even those meant tohelp and support them,  turning on them quite cruely. They also had to cope with a massive backlash of often organised and LNP led online trolling  against them. Basically they risked the lot, anyway,  up to and including their own personal safety in order to bring Keith Pitt  (their local LNP allied leader, much like Rick Wilson up there ) to heel and stood firm to tell the truth about CDC to the wider Australian audience. Everything gov tried to do, backfired. It was great to watch and be a part of too where I could.

3) Access to information and wider support denied. The LNP couldn’t shut down Hinklers access to FB or the net or the national press and they couldn’t divide their working groups or intimidate them via press and personal threats. They appear to have done this in Goldfields, and made use of  the social and cultural divides aka peoples own fears and prejudices against them as a weapon,  and that way, they seem to have also shut down any thought of truly creative social and cultural alternatives that do require more effort and commitment to implement than a plastic card and government sugar daddys, but they were and are still available.

Given the remote location, Gov seem to have been enabled to rely more on an already compliant pro LNP media’s cooperation by feeding them only limited information, relying on their editorial constraints and social unwillingness to rock the boat, or to challenge or even investigate their daily bread, and so unlike other towns,  the LNP totally owned the narrative up there and in that and simply by only telling people ‘good fact’…which is no relation to actual fact in case you were wondering…they conned people into thinking exactly what they wanted them to think. They lied…and tired, genuinely fed up, hating or hurting and ultimately trusting people, believed them.


Again, and along with making use of the remoteness of Goldfields, the racism factor could have been a big part too, we know that many non Aborignal people, and non addict/alcoholic people STILL have no idea what is about to hit them under the upcomming forced and blanket payment CDC rollout. So much for ‘community consultation’, many people that will be effected still seem ignorant to the fact, and as a whole, most seem to have not even been given information let alone an active role in decision making. And no doubt too Gov DSS teams played on and took advantage of this naivity, and somehow successfully divided the community, very fast, and like they have elsewhere we are sure they greased groups and busineses there into supporting the roll out, with their now well know tactic of manufacturing ” community consent”,  using  the same pretext’s and neat little give or withold funding shenanigans  they used in Kununurra and Ceduna.

As they did everywhere else that has shown any resistance, they  have again it seems actively tried  to suppress or have dismissed and negated opposition views and  voices in town, and in local and national press; something Hinkler eventually overcame through sheer persistence, and Moree through sheer cheekiness, swift action and through its Councils support for them rather than the CDC.
So people who did oppose up there, couldn’t come together, no time, no real information,  until it was too late,  though we all did see that incedibly brave and uplifting protest just this past week *waves and thanks*.

So people were not informed and kept  intentionally under or misinformed about CDC realities and maybe too much division had already been present or sowed and promises made and accepted, before anyone knew or without anyone really having any authentic history or insight into what is already going on in current sites about the withdrawl of support for CDC by many leaders there.

And there are a LOT of voices that oppose this roll out in Goldfields…we know…we hear them and they are now angry and hurt and betrayed voices that notably, did not get a free Andrew Forrest all expenses paid trip to Parliament House on Monday this week…including priority access to NXT and LNP parliamentarians – the same people who’s votes in Senate in the end, had total control over ending the trials once right then and there for everyone, or continuing them, as they voted to. Whats worse, those politiians voted to pass the Bill, without any protective provisions for the actual people being placed on cards, or any structural provisions that would have guaranteed funding and obliged Gov to evaluate the ‘trial’ and actually take care of people in it.

4) Stacking the Senate. In the end and for all the effort, the evidence we gathered the struggle while certainly worth it in many other ways, made no difference to outcomes in Parliament. Politically speaking,  Goldfields has the Card trial because LNP delayed long enough for their new independent best friend to be sworn into the senate. After which, NXT sold out to the LNP agenda and sealed the deal. The CDC program as we all proved to them,  has no internal merit of its own that can be validated by them or any respected third party, and so the only way LNP got it pushed through was by political trickery and horsetrading on our rights and freedoms with NXT.

Even with the third senator on board for LNP, we had the numbers to block. Had NXT stuck with the ALP Bill amendments, LNP would have been forced to pull the Bill or add more concession amendments to get it through or the current trials would have ended June this year. Goldfileds may still l have faced a roll out if that had been the casee though, because the LNP decided two towns hundreds of kilometers apart, were actually one trial site after all, which gave them the option under existing legislation to roll out a third site even if the Bill failed. So in a sense, what has happened this past week has at least ensured roll outs were not national and unending from the get go, so you do have the pretense of a  “trial” end date to work with if you choose to fight back or realise after the fact like so many have, that it was the wrong program to enlist.

But  you will have to stand up and fight if you want to stop this becoming permanent in your town and very likely, you will have to stepup, take the same risks everyone else has had to, and physically do that fighting on your own and oftgen very alone. We know how hard that was to do that in an urban center, and are keenly aware of the increased risk to lives that implies in remote regions. We are at least in part through our own experiences,  well informed  of the daily difficulties faced by those in remote regions, especially among communities of already dispossed and streucturally disempowered, exhausted people who do have real world problems and very few solutions or willing helpers to find any.  Just  look for catalyst moments…they come…and if you dare to, jump up and grab them. It took ten months for Hinkler to be finally heard and respected as a force…and your time starts…… Now.

If you decide to leave, or not to fight, we are the first to say we understand. WE don’t judge, we know what is at stake and what it takes. If you do want to fight though, don’t forget for a second that you are NOT alone in that. Stay Human…be your good selves…and just stick to the facts and ask for support when you need it….one mob eh?

Anyway, in the end, after the Greens dis-allowance motion failed, it was only NXT pressure to block, and the Hinkler protests and national awareness raising effort by tens of thousands seen and unseen, that meant the LNP were forced to place their own amendments into the Bill last minute at all,  which set a limit the trials to three sites instead of an immediate national roll out, and which compelled them to bring another Bill to parliament in order to go beyond June 2019 to get it back in. So, outside of the hope and opportunity for a national vote to evict the LNP next election….some chance still exists to fight the whole thing again, as much as the chance remains in Goldfields right now, to get creative in saying NO #werefuse,  right now.
They are already laying ground work for  national rollout again now…so we are not stopping….we don’t suggest anyone else do either.

So that is why….all the reasons I can think of while staying out of  larger issues of  systemic social and structural racism, disposession and ongoing political and social ignorance and inflantilisation. But the fact Goldfields contracts are only being signed right now, is clear evidence even LNP  are still making policy on the hop, and had no idea if the JLP court case would go in their favor or, if NXT would flip until the last minute. This insight is anyone oppsing this card, anywhere.
I’m still grateful for NXT’s role in forcing those LNP amendments out and ono the table, but in myself, still trying to come to grips with that late flip, being led astray by my own hopes that I placed in them and the ALP tothe the right thing, not just the politically and convenient thing. I am also still wondering why NXT and ALP together just did not simply vote yes to Senator Seiwert’s dis-allowance motion given all the evidence and harm they know is occuring and so failed despite their words,  to shut it down once and for all.

As a person facing CDC and homeless myself if this goes national, and it will if we all don’t stand up to stop it, its been gutting. And  just why NXT didn’t go The Greens motion or later, with the ALP amendments, or even why  they didn’t do a double agent style double cross and flip on LNP last minute, has never been clarified by Rebekha Sharkies office. There were ceertainly plenty of opportunity’s for them tostepup…but they didn’t. and the lack of closure on that for many of us is a pain in the ass. A pain born a bit easier knowing my son at least, can have at least one year of recovery time from his 3 year battle with cancer, before facing this issue in his life, thanks to the fight that took place to defend our young peoples human rights across Australia this has peaked last ten months.

I am watching government funding sites though, to see what dollar ammount our human rights went for….

Sorry for long post. Cheers.

SNS Ally HC.



Government claims that we are “ideologically opposed” – to their ideologically driven IMPOSITION of a socially, economically and individually harmful, and divisive policy and they imply that this is a ‘bad’ thing, or a weak position from which to mount opposition. They then summarily dismiss our concerns and any evidence we and others have put before them.


WE ARE ideologically opposed to the implementation of any economic or social apartheid in this nation, period. NO apology and we hold that ALL every day Australians SHOULD be opposed to poor government practice and these dangerous and socially divisive tools of tyranny that have a well documented history of CATASTROPHIC impact in and on societies.

We are not ONLY “ideologically opposed” however and that is where LNP are trying AGAIN to side step the issues and manipulate peoples thinking about the CDC program.

➡ We are opposed to CDC specifically, due to THE MISREPRESENTATION of data and the ignoring of vital evidence, and stand with, at minimum, over 125 local and national organizations, groups INCLUDING government groups, along with tens of thousands of individuals who have stood opposed to the CDC program everywhere including members of our own Senate and our communities.
Our opposition is based on the evidence presented to government this card is NOT working! Evidence that far outweighs and challenges their continual obfuscations that it IS working. Government is ignoring the evidence AND the peoples authoritative voice and experiences.

➡ We oppose CDC specifically on the basis that the “evaluation” was so ridiculously flawed and substandard, it cannot stand to authenticate the CDC or legitimately provide proof of concept – the Orima Evaluation was NOT fit for purpose.

➡ We oppose CDC specifically because as it stands now, and due the nature of it impacts and its wider sociological agenda, is ABUSIVE. On every fundamental level. It removes CHOICE and FREE WILL from voting, taxpaying Australian Citizens without crime or evidence of delinquency.

➡ We oppose CDC because it forces people to sign a legally binding contract with a third party – a private corporation – against their will just to gain access to their legal entitlements. CDC participants must submit to corporate Terms and Conditions that segregate them economically and infringe heavily upon their rights and protections, subjecting them to THIRD PARTY legal recourse without the protection of Senate of oversight.

➡ We oppose CDC specifically because if forced income management HAD worked in over 13 years of its active use in the NT and beyond, THEN PEOPLE WOULDN’T NEED THE CDC NOW!

➡ We are opposed to CDC specifically, because forced income management [FIM] as a concept and as a policy in practice, has not in 13 years of its use under other titles, been sucessful.
The EVIDENCE predominantly from government itself, demonstrates clearly that it is not working now and not workable longer term.
Governments own report on forced income management in over ( then) ten years of utility, has show FIM only entrenched poverty and abuse cycles within communities, stating that this concept and policy has failed to meet any one of its stated objectives and instead, saw a 46% rise in child neglect along with other well documented increases in crime, negative social and health impacts, and only increased welfare dependency.
And we point government back to its own Orima Research reports that not only omitted key data on DV and other negative outcomes and impacts, but in itself, showed a similar outcome of insufficiency to increase community safety and reduce crime.

➡ We oppose CDC specifically based on HUMAN RIGHTS standards; standards that are NOT mere paper weights to dismiss, and standards that are not being upheld by this program as documented by the Australian Human Rights Commission – on three separate occasions.

➡ We oppose CDC specifically based on the the LIVED EXPERIENCE and trauma being described to us by people actually experiencing life on the CDC itself who are reporting substantial and ongoing and negative life altering impacts, daily realities that this government has chosen to dismiss several dozen times, including as recently as during recent Senate debates.

➡ We oppose CDC specifically because it removes choice, autonomy, self determination and personal and political agency from people who have committed no crime. These essential freedoms, are the major keys both to the maintenance of equality within our wider society and they are keys essential to self led recovery from trauma, addiction and poverty as a whole. We oppose CDC because people are being removed from equality under law they are facing sanction and infringements on their legal non-discrimination, economic, privacy, and civil rights and other racial, disability and child safety protections, rights and protections intended to ensure the safety of ALL Australians. They are being segregated from society.



WE ARE also unapologetic in our opposition to the creation and advent of a Corporate State of Australia and to the retention of authority or primary control over OUR government and OUR national support programs, structures and portfolios by Corporations – with or without active governmental collusion, this is the quintessential definition of Fascism, made manifest by the fact that under CDC people are being actively forced through use of pretext, to sign with corporate entities against their will.

This unreported if not clandestine decision to shift Australia as a nation from a Social Democratic State into one of Corporate Fascism and the decision to force citizens of Australia of any class into binding corporate relationships, was never tabled before parliament, has never been openly discussed or disclosed, and was never voted upon. Yet it is proceeding at pace based on all available evidence, none clearer than the rushed, forced implementation of the CDC program and its stated and unstated goals.

We did not, as a nation vote to or elect ANY party or give ANY government the mandate or authority to institutionalise fascism or to alter or put in to place any structure of socioeconomic apartheid towards that end. And we remain opposed to the implementation of such a state via the usage and manipulation of select and socially dis-empowered groups via intentionally rushed policy designed to obfuscate the larger agenda and so conceal this transition of our national culture and politic from public scrutiny.

We hold the methodology of the roll out of the CDC program has been an act of violence, and deception expressively rushed into being, in order to mislead the wider public of its wider agenda. CDC as it stands now, remains a flawed policy and program without independent merit, a program based solely on assumption. It is being implemented obsessively, and via the manipulated use of stereotypes that are reliant upon the political illiteracy of the wider public.

The CDC is a morally vagrant expression of blatant elitism and fascism. With its wider agenda as yet to be fully revealed within the national public consciousness, the CDC’s ‘s roll out now and wider, is not based on the clear, informed consent and CHOICE of the Australian people, and as such, should cease immediately.





  • WE want government to end the CDC program as both an active trial and to cease any policies that rely on CDC as a method of compulsary/ forced third party income management entirely.


  • WE want government to stop lying about ‘null impact’, ie: we want them to stop telling everyone that there is no impact on the lives of forced ‘trial’ participants external to the restrictions imposed upon the purchase of the  ‘three evils’ [ drugs alcohol and gambling products]. We along with other 125 Australian community groups and organisations have formally presented evidence of substantial impacts of CDC to this government and they have been negated, or ignored. We want this government to address those impacts directly and meaningfully, and to inform parliament, the people, and the media genuinely, about the existance of the plethora of well documented and often horrendous social, psychological and functionality  related impacts of the CDC program in peoples lives, as they have been experienced by current trial participants across all sites and as presented to them in Senate via the 125 submissions to the Senate Inquiry in Nov 2016.


  • WE want government to admit to the serious structural and proceedural flaws in the CDC program openly,  and to place peoples lives and the lives of their carers and families, above their need to rapidly roll out this program due to coporate pressure.


  • WE want the government to clearly explain to the Australian people, exactly why this card – which is a duplication of current services available to individuals, communities AND government aready – is needed and to disclose the FULL costings of this venture to the Australian people so  THEY can judge its overall economic merit.


  • We want the government to concede, that the existence of any current need for the CDC at all, automatically demonstrates after 13 years of trialing compulsary income management, that this concept and policy has failed.


  • WE want government to cease soliciting chambers of commerce,  local councils and others, using funding to enlist their support for CDC roll outs. We want government to stop the gross abuse of power and position that its active practice of dividing people within targeted communities and for them to end their tactical funding inititives. We want government to stop manipualting funding,  proffering it to some and withholding it from those who do not agree to support CDC roll outs.


  • WE want government to TALK TO PEOPLE ACTUALLY FACING THIS SANCTION about what THEY really need and want and what is best for them and their families, and to include them in all CDC *decision making* in their communities FROM THE GET GO.


  • WE want government to admit, that the almost complete exclusion of centrelink recipients from essential CDC decision making processes as a cohort, [except in the tactical usage of specific individuals to support governments own position] demonstrates clearly that this cohort are being collectively judged, labeled AND EXCLUDED from the process based on the worst possible stereotypical interpretation of their intellectual and social capacities, and is evidence that they are being defined as a ‘class’ and by the lowest common denominator.  Blanket judgement.


  • WE want government to admit the fact that it has been intentionally avoiding engagement with income support recipients in targeted communities, and existing trial communities, and disrespectfully ignoring this cohort since the programs inception. That it has been negating the value of their opinions and experiences AND their rights to participation and political agency entirely.


  • WE want government to STOP manufacturing “community consent”. PERIOD. Stop it in the chambers of parliament, on tv and in our communities. As a tactic it obvious, it is vulgar, it is beneath contempt and only demonstrates to everyone concerned, the presence of manipulation and so, undermines THEIR authority, and peoples trust in the processes and validity of government completely.


  • WE want government to admit to the nation that “Community Leaders” under law, and individual members of a community themselves, in fact have NO LAWFUL RIGHT to speak for anyone or make decisons for anyone but their own selves. That external to legally stipulated boundaries of their office, they  may not  under law, give implied or presumed consent on behalf of any income support payment recipient at all and they may not sign any document or make any commitment wherein this consent is implied third party. The government must admit that local bodies, officals and services are not States Trustees, and as such, Councils, police, doctors, organisations and citizens are not empowerd and have no lawful authority, to adjudicate on behalf of income support recipients personal affairs or on issues of  of PERSONAL income. To remove this capacity to choose by force, to dismiss any Australians right to consent on matters that impact them directly, is to admit the CDC is a policy of intentional deprivaton of liberty, which is, to enforce the condition of slavery upon them.


  • WE want government, if it remains dedicated to CDC expansion, to enage external and independent THIRD PARTIES to evaluate the CDC program and its short medium and long term effects and to document each trial site independently. Throughout this entire process,  government has shown itself UNWILLING to engage in honest representation of facts, unwilling to listen to sound advice from any sector external to the corporate, and has shown itself entirely INCAPABLE self managing this program or being truthful about their consideration of social and individual CDC impacts and the problems in the system and program wider.


  • WE want independent UN HRC observers or similar non state actors enlisted in trial locations PRIOR to program deployment. We want observers present during these trials, as authentic over watch for the entire CDC program and for the care and protection of the PEOPLE on the card that this government has continuously and completely ignored. If the CDC is  harmless, what cost three observers and their reporting fees, to the hundreds of millions already wasted, and the billions in potential waste?